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[Taym]

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The flaws in the new clan system META​

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as you might know, skywars has been removed entirely in recent times, this of course had a really negative effect on the clan system, for some time now, the top clans had a certain "META" or most of them did, which was something close to farming bedwars for trophies (early-mid season) and farming skywars/bedwars-solo/duo (mid-late season) because farming trophies in bedwars quadruples becomes too risky the more trophies you have and thus skywars and solo/duo bedwars was the go to option. NOW, with the removal of skywars you only have 2 options which are solo and duo bedwars, some people might still do quadruples but all three of them are quite bad due to, "Sniping".​

sniping is basically trying to queue into somebody's match to make them lose the game, now in itself sniping isn't really a threat if you are a good player and you know you can defeat the sniper but the problem is, those "snipers" aren't abiding to the server rules much anymore, they queue on alts, cross team. not allowing you to progress anymore in trophies, this problem cannot be simply solved by "reporting rule breakers" because those snipers aren't entirely stupid as well, it's really hard to catch enough evidence of cross teaming to get them banned and they might ban evade, and even if they are banned, most of the snipers aren't part of the opposing clans rather allies that do not mind a 14 day ban because they don't play anyway, now this problem didn't just appear because skywars was removed, of course it existed when skywars was still running, BUT not to this extent because in skywars, 1 small mistake can cost you the game and decent skywars players will manage to beat multiple snipers in the same game even if they blatantly cross team because skywars doesn't provide the same kind of rewards for everyone unlike bedwars, with skywars the speed that you advance in is a game decider, with bedwars everyone is very close to equal in terms of starting out, so multiple snipers in 1 game have a really higher chance of beating you in bedwars than in skywars, and the diversity that separated people that grind skywars for trophies and bedwars for trophies made sniping a very exhausting task and you would rather spend that time grinding trophies for your own clan, but nowadays the key to winning the clan top is to basically grind out the first period of time as much as possible then stop the runner up clans from going any higher by sniping them and making them lose hundreds of trophies.​

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I suggest changing the way clan top works to something other than trophies. possibly clan points that reset every month, but the difference is, you can't lose those points when you lose a game, of course you will gain more points if you won than if you lost, but still earn points nonetheless, this feature will have its downsides and upsides, those being: less competitive and toxic gameplay, the reduction of rule breaking snipers and snipers in general, good players and mediocre players are no longer separated (much) in terms of earning (this can be looked at as both negative and positive)​

But this feature will be way better than the current state the clan system is in.​

How could this idea help improve JartexNetwork?

a lot of clans are using disallowed modifications like bots that tell you who's online, where, and how many trophies they are earning/losing, cross teaming on alts, making it REALLY hard for staff members to catch their main accounts because tracking IPs isn't really that easy.​

so this new feature will make all what was stated above close to non-existent and will make the community around the clans less toxic, no longer of rule breakers, and more friendly and casual, while of course keeping it competitive.​

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(NOTE: this of course doesn't mean competing clans will be friends with each other because I don't think that's possible but at least they won't be out for each other's throats in the game)​

 

[Sumitxd_]

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[Sumitxd_]

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[_Sebby]

Hi aimgod huge fan

 

[Nirahz]

idk, i get where ur coming from and how playing isnt fun anymore, but i don't agree with this suggestion
are there ways to know when someone is a sniper or not? if so, we can probably think about making a command to toggle trophies off in-game once u realise there's a sniper (one restriction to this could be that the command only works for the first 30s of a game)

i don't think the idea of removing trophies lost when losing is great personally. i think that removes most of the skill required (not that there's much rn) to grind clans. if you remove any loss penalties, it becomes about who plays the most, instead of who wins the most

 

[Taym]

i see your point and i should've elaborated further on my concept, it is true that in my suggestion you actually don't lose clan points when you lose, but if it comes off balanced then winning will be MUCH more beneficial, so in turn it keeps the skill aspect and the concept of disabling trophies mid game is an idea but i think it will be abused badly/not used correctly, because sniping isn't against the rules, but multi sniping is, with that it is almost impossible to tell if you have snipers in your games because they are on alts most of the time and if you use stats overlay or any disallowed modification then you are risking your own account getting banned.

 

[Spaspect]

Minecraft Username:

usb101​

What is your suggestion's title?

The flaws in the new clan system META​

Suggestion Details:

===========SKIP this part if you just want to hear the suggestion not the reasoning===========​

​

as you might know, skywars has been removed entirely in recent times, this of course had a really negative effect on the clan system, for some time now, the top clans had a certain "META" or most of them did, which was something close to farming bedwars for trophies (early-mid season) and farming skywars/bedwars-solo/duo (mid-late season) because farming trophies in bedwars quadruples becomes too risky the more trophies you have and thus skywars and solo/duo bedwars was the go to option. NOW, with the removal of skywars you only have 2 options which are solo and duo bedwars, some people might still do quadruples but all three of them are quite bad due to, "Sniping".​

sniping is basically trying to queue into somebody's match to make them lose the game, now in itself sniping isn't really a threat if you are a good player and you know you can defeat the sniper but the problem is, those "snipers" aren't abiding to the server rules much anymore, they queue on alts, cross team. not allowing you to progress anymore in trophies, this problem cannot be simply solved by "reporting rule breakers" because those snipers aren't entirely stupid as well, it's really hard to catch enough evidence of cross teaming to get them banned and they might ban evade, and even if they are banned, most of the snipers aren't part of the opposing clans rather allies that do not mind a 14 day ban because they don't play anyway, now this problem didn't just appear because skywars was removed, of course it existed when skywars was still running, BUT not to this extent because in skywars, 1 small mistake can cost you the game and decent skywars players will manage to beat multiple snipers in the same game even if they blatantly cross team because skywars doesn't provide the same kind of rewards for everyone unlike bedwars, with skywars the speed that you advance in is a game decider, with bedwars everyone is very close to equal in terms of starting out, so multiple snipers in 1 game have a really higher chance of beating you in bedwars than in skywars, and the diversity that separated people that grind skywars for trophies and bedwars for trophies made sniping a very exhausting task and you would rather spend that time grinding trophies for your own clan, but nowadays the key to winning the clan top is to basically grind out the first period of time as much as possible then stop the runner up clans from going any higher by sniping them and making them lose hundreds of trophies.​

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I suggest changing the way clan top works to something other than trophies. possibly clan points that reset every month, but the difference is, you can't lose those points when you lose a game, of course you will gain more points if you won than if you lost, but still earn points nonetheless, this feature will have its downsides and upsides, those being: less competitive and toxic gameplay, the reduction of rule breaking snipers and snipers in general, good players and mediocre players are no longer separated (much) in terms of earning (this can be looked at as both negative and positive)​

But this feature will be way better than the current state the clan system is in.​

How could this idea help improve JartexNetwork?

a lot of clans are using disallowed modifications like bots that tell you who's online, where, and how many trophies they are earning/losing, cross teaming on alts, making it REALLY hard for staff members to catch their main accounts because tracking IPs isn't really that easy.​

so this new feature will make all what was stated above close to non-existent and will make the community around the clans less toxic, no longer of rule breakers, and more friendly and casual, while of course keeping it competitive.​

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(NOTE: this of course doesn't mean competing clans will be friends with each other because I don't think that's possible but at least they won't be out for each other's throats in the game)​

+1, i doubt thats gonna change anything. top clans will still snipe the lower clans because even though you aren't losing any clan points, they can still prevent you from gaining them by making you lose. good luck though.

 

[Taym]

thanks for your opinion, but what makes this concept good is the fact that playing instead of sniping will be more beneficial and rewarding than sniping, rendering the concept of sniping as inefficient

 

[Ve7x]

Hello Taym,

Hope this message finds you well! I would like to thank you for trying to help and reinforce JartexNetwork in tyring to make a suggestion with your brilliant ideas! Moreover, I'd like to upvote it. Reasons are mentioned by everyone above, no need to state mine!

Kind Regards,
¬Ve7x

 

[Corroborating]

+1 revamp the clan system or remove it. The amount of people rule breaking to get a few pixels on block game is crazy.

 

[_Sebby]

Corroborating mad because daunt saboed :/ is that your cat? He is cute.

 

[Taym]

tell me about it

 

[oSilver_Fox]

Corroborating mad because daunt saboed :/ is that your cat? He is cute.

is that ur dawg wait u are a 1

 

[_Sebby]

Why toxic

 

[Tanish6969]

add obfuscation, problem solved

 

[Matty116]

ats overlay and no method to detect something like that in both jn and pika) This update could possibly undermine the playercount of the server (which is already suffering)

bignoober_69 to back to mmc boxing

 

[bigfot]

bignoober_69 to back to mmc boxing

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