Discord Giving Donator rank the perm To either Send Gif or Media in general Chat (any one of those)

[Aryaniscool]

Minecraft Username:

Aryaninnit​

What is your suggestion's title?

Giving Donator rank the perm To either Send Gif or Media in general Chat (any one of those)​

Suggestion Details:

"The title is quite self-explanatory​

please consider granting Donators permission to send either media or GIFs ( or both also) in the general chat."​

How could this idea help improve JartexNetwork?

Allowing Donators to send media or GIFs in general chat would improve community interaction and engagement.​

It would encourage more players to vote, knowing they get added perks in chat, which helps support the server popularity.​

Additionally, controlled media sharing (with rules in place) can make the chat more lively, entertaining, and active, leading to better player retention.

EDIT - At first, I kept the suggestion short and to the point, but after a lot of discussion, the topic has grown deeper.
This thread has now evolved into a broader conversation around role fairness, donor recognition, and general chat privileges.
So if you're opening this and only reading the title or the first few lines — you're missing the actual context.
I recommend checking the replies below for more detailed reasoning and perspectives that developed over time.​

Thanks to everyone who contributed — even the critics.

 

[Aryaniscool]

so like
it really doesnt matter if its seasonal or permanent
new player dont just get it in 15days or less
How many times do i have to say that and the reason why i am calling u brain dead is because
i am saying the same thing again and again and u are on still either trying to avoid my point or u are actually so dumb that u cant even understand what i or that minecraftian guy was saying

 

[Aryaniscool]

thing is, getting donator role is very simple as it’s prerequisite is literally any store rank. I’d rather prestige donators get these permissions, but we already have these permissions exclusive to other roles.

i get ur point
Honestly, it feels like the donator role users are being thrown under the bus with the prestige donators and sponsor giveaways driving it, and the role manager from the staff team being the one who pushed them in front of it.
And why do I feel this way?
Because sending GIFs is a very basic permission and we r donators.
Granting such a small feature shouldnt be difficult for the staff team.


as i said earlier
Getting a rank is easy even though most players only get one after playing on the server for several months.
but they did support the server right? (by voting ofc)
so cant they deserve media / gif perm in general chat ... ?
And if you're going to bring up the #donator chat
well, there's a saying in my regional area:
"Elephant teeth" an elephant has different teeth for eating and different ones just for show.
In the same way, it's just a show by the staff
They act like they're giving us something, but in reality, it holds no real value.
Please dont be offended or anything but this is what it really feels like


Just because someone holds a higher rank
like Sponsor or Prestige Donator, doesn’t mean the lower ranks
like Donators who have earned their place through consistent effort should be sidelined.

you don’t shine brighter by dimming someone else. (why dimming cuz again gif is a basic perm)

of course, it’s your staff team’s decision to choose what extra benefits to offer higher-tier ranks
But maybe role management could be handled with a little more balance and fairness.
Restricting basic permissions ( like sending GIFs/media in general chat ) just to protect the exclusivity of a paid rank feels like the wrong tradeoff.
Instead of restricting basic permissions from Donators, just give higher ranks something more.


For example, in #general-chat, the permissions could look like this:

• Donator → GIF or Media
• Prestige → Media and GIF
• Sponsor → Link, Media, and GIF

I’m not sure of the exact permission setup your server uses this is just an example.
But what I’m trying to say is:
add value to the higher ranks without taking away the basics from those who genuinely earned their Donator rank through time and effort.


In the end its upto your team to decide how you want to handle it but a more balanced approach like this would keep things fair while still rewarding your top supporters.

 

[Minecraftian]

You tied up the discussion nicely, but just an open question and a thought.

Thought Regarding Responses to my Post (Unrelated to Thread Topic)

Like how can someone be this brain dead
did you even read what he said
the thing u are saying is not even what he said

Dream was right to quote me, this time, because I had misunderstood their point about buying a permanent rank with 1000 iron. I thought the purchase was seasonal. They didn't deny anything else I had said, or disprove anything at all technically, they just clarified one thing I said and addressed nothing else. The below change was made in response to their reply:

Aryaninnit understands that seasonal permanent ranks can be gotten within 15 days (or less - giveaways, crates, ingame trading) and the role can then be claimed on Discord

I get that it's been 7 pages of circular discussion with people talking over you. I'd hope other thread readers probably get the discussion by now, which is why I made my reply. Dream in particular didn't acknowledge any of my other points, so I'll choose to assume they read my points - silence speaks loudly. (I don't blame you for being irritated, but let's try to be charitable? At least, I'll keep trying.)

Open Question (Related to Thread Topic):

you don’t shine brighter by dimming someone else.

Wouldn't giving Donator role people Gif/Media perms be dimming regular users? By your (and my) estimate, most people won't have a Donator role right away, even if it's very easy to get (seasonal rank by in-game means or permanent rank by voting). Right now, both Donator and non-Donator roles are equally 'dim'; it may be a "basic" perm in other communities, but not here. Would this change to Media/Gif really be a reward for those who get a Donator role, or a punishment for those who don't have it? It's better practice to reward people that do things you want them to (voting), but isn't access to something most communities already have creating a (really minor) divide?
- Of course, having Gif/Media perms will incentivize people to get the Donator role, so it's a problem that'll fix itself. Still, your suggestion might be form of actively gatekeeping the permissions, as opposed to the current policy of just not permitting them at all.

And if your suggestion is accepted, assuming people eventually complain about Donator roles only having Gif/Media perms, what reason is there to have a separate Donator Room? Deleting it would remove conversations and memories for some users, leaving it would be redundant and elitist. This is a question directed towards whoever runs the Discord server (or a community poll), but which option would be chosen?

 

[DakshWagh]

i get ur point
Honestly, it feels like the donator role users are being thrown under the bus with the prestige donators and sponsor giveaways driving it, and the role manager from the staff team being the one who pushed them in front of it.
And why do I feel this way?
Because sending GIFs is a very basic permission and we r donators.
Granting such a small feature shouldnt be difficult for the staff team.


as i said earlier
Getting a rank is easy even though most players only get one after playing on the server for several months.
but they did support the server right? (by voting ofc)
so cant they deserve media / gif perm in general chat ... ?
And if you're going to bring up the #donator chat
well, there's a saying in my regional area:
"Elephant teeth" an elephant has different teeth for eating and different ones just for show.
In the same way, it's just a show by the staff
They act like they're giving us something, but in reality, it holds no real value.
Please dont be offended or anything but this is what it really feels like


Just because someone holds a higher rank
like Sponsor or Prestige Donator, doesn’t mean the lower ranks
like Donators who have earned their place through consistent effort should be sidelined.

you don’t shine brighter by dimming someone else. (why dimming cuz again gif is a basic perm)

of course, it’s your staff team’s decision to choose what extra benefits to offer higher-tier ranks
But maybe role management could be handled with a little more balance and fairness.
Restricting basic permissions ( like sending GIFs/media in general chat ) just to protect the exclusivity of a paid rank feels like the wrong tradeoff.
Instead of restricting basic permissions from Donators, just give higher ranks something more.


For example, in #general-chat, the permissions could look like this:

• Donator → GIF or Media
• Prestige → Media and GIF
• Sponsor → Link, Media, and GIF

I’m not sure of the exact permission setup your server uses this is just an example.
But what I’m trying to say is:
add value to the higher ranks without taking away the basics from those who genuinely earned their Donator rank through time and effort.


In the end its upto your team to decide how you want to handle it but a more balanced approach like this would keep things fair while still rewarding your top supporters.

bro how much ever you try this suggestion is gonna be denied so no meaning of arguing on it

 

[DakshWagh]

and basically you can get gif perms by just giving out a rank which instead of you claiming it you can give it away and get the gif perms simple

 

[PiperBelle]

I get what you're saying, Aryaniscool . Making perks tiered like you suggested seems like a fair compromise. Giving Donators a basic GIF perm while saving cooler stuff for Prestige/Sponsor ranks adds value without making the Donator rank feel useless. It rewards voting but still encourages store purchases. Good suggestion.

 

[Aryaniscool]

You tied up the discussion nicely, but just an open question and a thought.

Dream was right to quote me, this time, because I had misunderstood their point about buying a permanent rank with 1000 iron. I thought the purchase was seasonal. They didn't deny anything else I had said, or disprove anything at all technically, they just clarified one thing I said and addressed nothing else. The below change was made in response to their reply:



I get that it's been 7 pages of circular discussion with people talking over you. I'd hope other thread readers probably get the discussion by now, which is why I made my reply. Dream in particular didn't acknowledge any of my other points, so I'll choose to assume they read my points - silence speaks loudly. (I don't blame you for being irritated, but let's try to be charitable? At least, I'll keep trying.)

Open Question (Related to Thread Topic):

Wouldn't giving Donator role people Gif/Media perms be dimming regular users? By your (and my) estimate, most people won't have a Donator role right away, even if it's very easy to get (seasonal rank by in-game means or permanent rank by voting). Right now, both Donator and non-Donator roles are equally 'dim'; it may be a "basic" perm in other communities, but not here. Would this change to Media/Gif really be a reward for those who get a Donator role, or a punishment for those who don't have it? It's better practice to reward people that do things you want them to (voting), but isn't access to something most communities already have creating a (really minor) divide?
- Of course, having Gif/Media perms will incentivize people to get the Donator role, so it's a problem that'll fix itself. Still, your suggestion might be form of actively gatekeeping the permissions, as opposed to the current policy of just not permitting them at all.

And if your suggestion is accepted, assuming people eventually complain about Donator roles only having Gif/Media perms, what reason is there to have a separate Donator Room? Deleting it would remove conversations and memories for some users, leaving it would be redundant and elitist. This is a question directed towards whoever runs the Discord server (or a community poll), but which option would be chosen?
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Thought Regarding Responses to my Post (Unrelated to Thread Topic)]
would giving donator role people gif or media perms be dimming regular users
theres a clear difference between a regular user and a donator
donators support the server by voting and grinding in game to earn that rank that is real engagement
so no giving them something basic like media or gif perms isnt dimming anyone it is a recognition of effort


both donator and non donator roles are equally dim
im genuinely confused how you think thats fair logic
if someone puts in effort to help the server grow through voting grinding for seasonal ranks etc
how does it make sense to treat them the same as someone who just logs in and does nothing for the community or server


it may be a basic perm in other communities but not here
exactly and why not here
because the current structure reserves basic permissions to make higher roles like prestige or sponsor seem more exclusive
thats literally the point ive been raising


wouldnt this change be a reward or a punishment
calling it a punishment is such a stretch
giving people who help the server a basic perk isnt punishing others
thats like saying giving mvp plus perks in game is punishing people who stay default
you dont get rewarded for doing nothing
plain and simple


access creates a minor divide
then take that up with the staff because they are the ones who implemented this tiered system
if youre suddenly uncomfortable with a divide then why are you okay with separating donator prestige and sponsor roles in the first place
if its fine to have a hierarchy among donators then logically it should be just as fine between donators and non donators
otherwise youre just being selective


what about the donator only room
again thats a server level decision
if the concern is redundancy then discuss and rework it
but dont use it as a reason to block donators from basic visibility in general chat
that room exists as a small community hub not a reason to silence donators elsewhere


And if your suggestion is accepted, assuming people eventually complain about Donator roles only having Gif/Media perms, what reason is there to have a separate Donator Room? Deleting it would remove conversations and memories for some users, leaving it would be redundant and elitist. This is a question directed towards whoever runs the Discord server (or a community poll), but which option would be chosen?


most people dont care about chat history in the donator room
if people were genuinely using it actively for meaningful conversations this wouldnt even be a topic right now

my experience in donator chat

i remember some active player keeps sending the same thing every day (with a speed of that same pic every single day) in the donator chat — a pic of chowmein with chocolate, tagging it #day1696, #day1697, writing “merry christmas” and pinging some staff (prob sr mod Flappix ) who never even reply to him lmao.

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that’s the level of meaningful conversation that usually happens there lol and somehow we’re acting like it’s a sacred space for deep discussions.
i mean yea sometime there is but again that is not what usually happen there

the whole idea of keeping that channel just for the sake of memories feels more like an excuse than a valid reason
besides adding basic perms like media or gif to general chat for donators doesnt make the donator room useless
in fact the donator room was originally created for those who wanted a quieter space or focused discussions and that purpose still stands
those who prefer that environment will continue using it regardless
if redundancy is really the concern
it is not about deleting channels or limiting features
it is about restructuring roles and permissions in a fair and thoughtful way not emotionally

 

[Lumin0us]

neutral

im not gonna bother reading 60+ messages of this whole-ass discussion, i personally dont mind this change in any way shape or form

 

[Aryaniscool]

neutral

im not gonna bother reading 60+ messages of this whole-ass discussion, i personally dont mind this change in any way shape or form

Still a better take than blindly following the herd mentality of “-7 downvotes, so I’ll do the same.”


Most of the people here haven’t presented any solid counterarguments and the few who did, I’ve already addressed. If more come up, I’ll be ready to respond again.

 

[Lumin0us]

Still a better take than blindly following the herd mentality of “-7 downvotes, so I’ll do the same.”


Most of the people here haven’t presented any solid counterarguments and the few who did, I’ve already addressed. If more come up, I’ll be ready to respond again.

sure whatever you say, i've experienced that myself a bit too back in 2022 when i got downvote targeted xd