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kaivalya

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VoteTop reward split for ties or time stamp based ranking

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For years now, Jartex has had VoteTop rewards for top voters and in-case of ties, the apparent ranking from VoteTop leaderboard is used to assign rewards, which if I didn't knew any better is deterministically random. What I mean by that is, say players A, B and C have 7 votes each (tied), a ranking would be randomly determined for example: #1 B #2A #3C and this ranking would also be the same if a tie was to happen between any combination of these players next month. This means the player C will always be at a severe disadvantage compared to player A and will get less reward for putting in same the same amount of voting effort. And there is nothing player C can do to beat player A if both are optimally voting, best he can do is tie.
These ties used to be rare in past when a lot of voting links used to be based on 12 hrs or 24 hrs cooldown instead of being one vote per day. This meant a voter had a better chance to beat other voters if he was not wasting any time voting on those links daily. But since that is not the case anymore, everyone will be at same vote count at month end with a difference of 1-2 votes max (like in case of Jan 2025).
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So I suggest Owners to split the reward amongst tied voters so that they would not be receiving rewards based on their random IGN ranking but instead purely based on their vote count.
Apart from this, an even fairer ranking be implemented which will be based on "first-to-votecount". This basically means if at the month end 3 players are tied with same vote count, the player who reached the count first, will be higher on the leaderboard rankings.

How could this idea help improve JartexNetwork?
Fairer Reward Distribution

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I can assure you that current VoteTop implementation is definitely not ranked according to who reaches a votecount first but rather randomly (or alteast by a factor which has got nothing to with voting speed). This can be verified by the example below, where the player even though was last to reach the vote count 210, later reached #1 just because he has the random priority over all other players on the same vote count.



 
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Hey kaivalya kaivalya , thank you for posting your suggestion on JartexNetwork, after reading your suggestion, I've decided to downvote (-1) it due to the following reasons:

• The Votetop ranking isn't random, it's decided on something particular, to keep competition low in votetop I won't conclude what it is. I've already told several people about it before and the competition for votetop has increased since then :( , it's fair enough already, it's just the Alts/Dupers which make it unfair.

• I totally deny with the splitting part, imagine voting for a month and being #1 with the ranking system but because of having same votes with other lb players your 6500 gold will be split, making your 1 month not so fruitful.

• Instead of splitting rewards, Gunfire should tie-up with voting websites where you have to register with your IGN [somewhat similar to linking your discord account with minecraft] but here its your minecraft account with the website, it would prevent other people trying to dupe on your IGN so that you get disqualified from VoteTop.

Hope you have a great day.
 
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The Votetop ranking isn't random, it's decided on something particular, to keep competition low in votetop I won't conclude what it is. I've already told several people about it before and the competition for votetop has increased since then :( , it's fair enough already, it's just the Alts/Dupers which make it unfair.
Lets just say it is IGN based, take for example this guy who is above you
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He is always going to be above you no matter how fast you vote, if you tie with him he will be above you
I totally deny with the splitting part, imagine voting for a month and being #1 with the ranking system but because of having same votes with other lb players your 6500 gold will be split, making your 1 month not so fruitful.
So say u tied with this guy and came 2nd, you telling me you dont want to split ? and you would like to keep the second prize ?
 

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Lets just say it is IGN based, take for example this guy who is above you
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He is always going to be above you no matter how fast you vote, if you tie with him he will be above you

So say u tied with this guy and came 2nd, you telling me you dont want to split ? and you would like to keep the second prize ?
I came #1 he was a duper buddy there's no way I would lose to anyone when it's votetop I owned pika and jartex leaderboards, tho that's a different thing that pika lb didn't even get announced [december] because only me and benno were legit and rest all were alts
 

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Lets just say it is IGN based, take for example this guy who is above you
View attachment 32406
He is always going to be above you no matter how fast you vote, if you tie with him he will be above you

So say u tied with this guy and came 2nd, you telling me you dont want to split ? and you would like to keep the second prize ?
Yeah knowing the criteria I'd rather not be so selfish and let him have all his gold if he is legit and not some alt or duper.
 

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Knowing the criteria do you think you can ever beat him if you both tied ?
 
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Splitting makes Votetop useless duh the rewards ain't even that huge to be split, one cannot buy diamond rank if it's split so it's not at all a good idea...
My man splitting is not done over the entire votetop, it is only for the players who tied
Player name -- Gold ---------votes-----GoldAfterSplit---
A -------------- 6,500 Gold. - 220 votes-----4k--
B -------------- 5,500 Gold. - 220 votes-----4k--
C -------------- 4,000 Gold. - 220 votes-----4k--
D --------------3,000 Gold. - 219 votes-----2k--
E -------------- 1,750 Gold. - 219 votes-----2k--
F --------------1,250 Gold. - 219 votes-----2k--
G ------------- 500 Gold. - 218 votes-----500
 

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My man splitting is not done over the entire votetop, it is only for the players who tied
Player name -- Gold ---------votes-----GoldAfterSplit---
A -------------- 6,500 Gold. - 220 votes-----4k--
B -------------- 5,500 Gold. - 220 votes-----4k--
C -------------- 4,000 Gold. - 220 votes-----4k--
D --------------3,000 Gold. - 219 votes-----2k--
E -------------- 1,750 Gold. - 219 votes-----2k--
F --------------1,250 Gold. - 219 votes-----2k--
G ------------- 500 Gold. - 218 votes-----500
My man do you expect just 3 people to have same amount of votes by the end of the month if this splitting feature is introduced? All voting maniacs will gather then trying their best. Would you love to get 3214 Gold instead of 6500 gold despite being #1? Why 3124 gold? If it's being split, it has to be split among all players having same votes, it's very likely that 10+ players will have the same amount of votes, now splitting a total of 22500 gold among top 7 people [who all have same amount of votes] gets you just 3214 gold. This splitting feature is in no way helpful OR Fair. It won't meet the needs of those who need rankups or other shi
 

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I see what your mentality is and I won't be arguing with your logic cause it is impossible to argue with. In any case it is management's decision to make.
 

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Knowing the criteria do you think you can ever beat him if you both tied ?
I came to know that he was duping from day 2, so I was destined to win, until some site became bugged or i forgot to vote btw can we talk in discord DMs because I don't wanna disclose few things?
 

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